I'm about to face the following case: I'm starting to work with people that still use RF 1.8. From many apparent reasons, since I'm going to be their coder, I'm trying to talk them into using Robofont 3.2 or above. Unfortunately, they said that they faced some problems with performance while testing out RF 3. To solve the problem, I asked them to do, what's following: update the RF3 to the last stable version I made sure that in the Preference Editor "warningWithFullStack" and "warningsLevel" are set to 1 and always. This way I was able to determine which scripts and plugins ran in the background are explicitly buggy delete or update extensions, and scripts don't work in RF3 if this didn't change the performance much, I asked them to make a backup copy of folders mentioned in 2 and to empty active folders. Then to copy, one-by-one, the scripts from the backup folder to the active directories. Whenever the script or plugin has been moved to the folder, I asked them to restart RF3 to check, if the performance has changed. I did it to determine which extension causing performance issues. They say that this method helped a bit. Also, all of the co-workers updated their systems recently to Mojave. At least one of them says that this helped (I don't know if it could be even the reason). In two weeks from now, I'm going to meet them and check their machines myself. Could any of you give me an advice, if there is any methodology/tools to check if the performance of RF3 is optimal? What should I look at/for? I'm also going to determine what exactly they understand as a 'poor performance'. So far, I was able to figure out that the issue is with using Glyph Window when drawing/moving points: it is slow and laggy. The same with SpaceWindow. One of the co-workers, when I asked her to open the Preference Editor, said that even scrolling to the bottom of the editor was causing jamming. I never faced issues like that, so I'm curious what would be the best way of solving problems like that. Thanks for the help in advance

upgraded scalefast to 1.0.3 in 3.3b. Now receiving: Traceback (most recent call last): ​ File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontParts/base/component.py", line 278, in _drawPoints File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontTools/pens/pointPen.py", line 205, in addComponent File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontTools/pens/basePen.py", line 177, in addComponent TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "scaleFast.py", line 1532, in <module> File "scaleFast.py", line 387, in __init__ File "scaleFast.py", line 920, in _selectedFontChanged File "/Users/Dave/Library/Application Support/RoboFont/plugins/ScaleFast.roboFontExt/lib/mutatorScale/lib/mutatorScale/utilities/fontUtils.py", line 64, in getRefStems File "/Users/Dave/Library/Application Support/RoboFont/plugins/ScaleFast.roboFontExt/lib/mutatorScale/lib/mutatorScale/utilities/fontUtils.py", line 252, in getGlyphBox File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontParts/base/glyph.py", line 620, in draw File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontParts/base/component.py", line 252, in draw File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontParts/base/component.py", line 260, in _draw File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontParts/base/component.py", line 266, in drawPoints File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontParts/base/component.py", line 280, in _drawPoints File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontTools/pens/pointPen.py", line 205, in addComponent File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fontTools/pens/basePen.py", line 177, in addComponent TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable

Awesome, thanks guys!

@gferreira Still happens in 3.3b for me mate.

@gferreira ah I understand. Thanks for the heads up, will give that a shot!

see Open .glyphConstruction files directly in RoboFont

@frederik Haha. I will think about writing it. It also has to add colors if there are not enough colors in the preferences.

@ThunderNixon glad I'm not alone in this! And yes, thank you so much @gferreira for the quick fix! Working now!

Thanks, @tal!

@erik My friend created a Designspace file for me and I can edit it in DesignSpace Editor and working fine in Skateboard. I just cannot create a new file and define axes. Thank you.

I added this to my to do list. Thanks!

Thanks for weighing in! Just to be clear, I'm not necessarily expecting things to stay magically compatible – I only am looking for a way to remove overlaps, but leave any points intact that are on the exterior of that combined shape. I think you understood my meaning already, but my initial image was pretty ambiguous, so this shows my general hope better: So, it sounds like the way the Remove Overlap functionality works, it's not that these points are removed as an extra step, but rather that their removal is a core part of the function? And there's no way to "turn that off"? As a simple temporary solution, I have found that I can at least have a visual of missing points by duplicating the glyph to an "overlap" layer, then turning that layer's visibility on. You could run a pre-overlap code getting points that are going to be removed... and add them back in a post-overlap script Is there some kind of accessible list of points to be removed (that doesn't seem very likely), or would I have to find a way to loop through points, and mathematically determine if they're on a straight path?

@bahman thanks. added to the docs.

This should help: https://github.com/fonttools/fonttools/blob/master/Lib/fontTools/misc/bezierTools.py

I downloaded from the email link again (accidentally skipping over your first recommendation), and ... it seems like maybe something is broken in the UI. It doesn't show anything for an interface: The output window contains this message: /Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/fs/base.py:74: DeprecationWarning: method 'getbytes' has been deprecated, please rename to 'readbytes' parts ['space', '0020', 'Zs'] parts ['exclam', '0021', 'Po'] parts ['quotedbl', '0022', 'Po'] parts ['numbersign', '0023', 'Po'] # a bunch of unicode entries are here parts ['scooter', '1F6F4', 'So'] parts ['motorScooter', '1F6F5', 'So'] parts ['canoe', '1F6F6', 'So'] parts ['sled', '1F6F7', 'So'] parts ['flyingSaucer', '1F6F8', 'So'] parts ['skateboard', '1F6F9', 'So'] /Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/defcon/objects/glyph.py:20: DeprecationWarning: addRepresentationFactory is deprecated. Use the functions in defcon.__init__. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/mojo/canvas.py", line 48, in sendDelegateAction_fallback_ File "/var/folders/bk/sprf07508xjg9100r6_j2qch0000gp/T/tmpvj1hln29/lib/skateboard.py", line 676, in draw AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'size' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/mojo/canvas.py", line 48, in sendDelegateAction_fallback_ File "/var/folders/bk/sprf07508xjg9100r6_j2qch0000gp/T/tmpvj1hln29/lib/skateboard.py", line 676, in draw AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'size' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.6/mojo/canvas.py", line 48, in sendDelegateAction_fallback_ File "/var/folders/bk/sprf07508xjg9100r6_j2qch0000gp/T/tmpvj1hln29/lib/skateboard.py", line 676, in draw AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'size' Surprisingly, if I click on the upper-left corner (where I know the "open" button should be), it does open my file explorer. However, if I then try to select the designspace which I was previously using in Skateboard (so I am fairly certain is valid), RoboFont then crashes. Just before I do select a file, this appears in the output window: I'm guessing maybe some kind of simple syntax error might be causing this.

this brings a very old issue back... https://github.com/robotools/vanilla/blob/master/Lib/vanilla/vanillaWindows.py#L465-L466 follow up here

very strange indeed... I cannot reproduce this on 10.13, will try on a 10.14 later on today.

hi I was wondering if there is a way to join two (open) contours with a script. E.g. join last point of contour A with first point of contour B. If I select these points in the glyph-view and click on "Close/Join Open Contours" this works. Is there also a scripting-based way to do that? thanks, jo

Yes, it's very handy. It would be handy also in the scripting window. :) Thanks!

Yeah there it is.