Hi, So it has been a while since using RoboFont, and i made the mistake of upgrading my macOS to Big Sur and now i receive the RoboFont error on opening the app. I've tried to install the 3.5beta but i am redirected to a 404 page... any advice? Thanks Daniel.

FYI: the public beta released during the hackathon has ufonormalizer 0.6.1 https://robofont.com/events/robohackathon2021/#robofont-hackathon-public-beta

@frederik Hate to bring up Ill*strator, but I actually think it handles this pretty well (no pun intended).

Hi, Most of the time, when I delete a point, the resulting curve estimation is a godsend. However, sometimes, handles go crazy. See GIF below; sometimes handles go even more off-frame and I have to go chase them down. TIA, Ryan

Hi there! Had a thought to potentially improve the experience of maintaining the handle angle while command is held down: Situation: I command-drag handles to maintain handle angle. Bug: Angle inconsistent, and once I bring it back past the on-curve, it locks to 0-degrees, not the desired angle. Suggestion: Can the angle maintenance be improved? It looks like it’s constantly recalculating the angle as it moves. This causes it to change over time due to rounding errors. Of course, rounding will make it never perfect, but maybe the angle could be stored once on commandDown + mouseDown, so it doesn’t jump around so much and will always relate to the original intended angle. Angle changes over time, even though I haven’t let go of command. TIA, Ryan

FYI: fontParts has font.kerning.find(("A", "V")) dont know why its not in the documentation.

you can define a character set as a Set in the left sidebar Wow, I genuinely never knew this feature existed. I think that will be super useful! Thanks so much for pointing it out to me.

he @frederik thanks for the pointers, it’s working pretty well now – see the updated gist. still trying to understand the part about initialization of window and observers, and how to use registerSubscriberEvent etc. – so the panel can also be opened without the Glyph Editor. I will ammend my post above with some answers. any suggestions on how to improve the code are welcome! cheers

@frederik I saw, should have look first before posting. Thanks!

A couple of things can go wrong... try to get a fresh download what is your OS? what is the traceback when you double click the file: RoboFont.app/Contents/MacOS/RoboFont after a right click on the app 'Show Package Contents'

Hi! I'm trying to install a module from PyPI by code and it returns an error. I've tried this: import pip pip.main(['install', 'package_name']) and it fails with the output: Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 2, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/__init__.py", line 16, in main File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/utils/entrypoints.py", line 3, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/cli/main.py", line 10, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/cli/autocompletion.py", line 9, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/cli/main_parser.py", line 7, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/cli/cmdoptions.py", line 23, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/cli/progress_bars.py", line 12, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/utils/logging.py", line 18, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/utils/misc.py", line 33, in File "/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python3.7/pip/_internal/locations.py", line 15, in File "distutils/command/install.pyc", line 18, in ImportError: cannot import name 'USER_BASE' from 'site' (/Applications/RoboFont.app/Contents/Resources/site.pyc) Also, I've tried this: import sys import subprocess output = subprocess.run([sys.executable, "-m", "pip", "install", "package_name"], capture_output=True) print(output) and got almost the same report with USER_BASE can't be imported, and also the same with pip show as subprocess. What I'm doing wrong?

Hey @Nino, welcome! I wrote a bit about this exact topic on my blog somewhat recently: https://blog.arrowtype.com/robofont-tips/

@frederik I too have this issue of test installed fonts becoming unavailable after some time. The time they are available varies, sometimes they are gone quickly, other times they hold somewhat longer. Would you have any updates for that issue?

Interesting solution!!!

Shoot, so... actually, those backslashes single quotes get re-added each time I save, close, and reopen the JSON preferences. So, basically, each time I edit JSON prefs and save, I get this same error, and have to re-fix it. I guess I’ll change the single quote strings to use the glyph name /quotesingle instead of the Unicode.

Perfect, that’s it! Thanks. And ha, maybe I’ll leave the unexpected blue. :)

@frederik It works well! Thanx

hello RoboFont world! back to the forum as a regular RoboFont user & developer, now that the RoboDocs torch has been passed to @roberto-arista With the RoboHackathon coming up next month, I am currently making plans to start upgrading hTools3 to RF4 during October. hTools4 release is scheduled for the 1st of January 2022 – more info in the hTools4 roadmap. About hTools3 hTools3 is a large toolkit containing more than 50 individual tools and scripts, which are organized around 4 main groups (scopes): Batch tools – Tools to apply actions to multiple fonts at once: copying data between fonts, setting family data from plain text files, applying various actions in batch, finding & replacing font infos, etc. Font tools – Tools to modify various types of font-level data: adjusting vertical metrics, changing glyph order, exporting layers, replacing components, etc. Glyphs tools – Tools to apply actions to the selected glyphs and/or the current glyph: transforming contours in various ways, changing metrics, interpolating between fonts, moving & copying data between layers, modifying glyph names, etc. Glyph tools – Tools to visualize and modify the current glyph: preview interpolation, show distances and angles between pairs of points, show handle measurements, etc. Special hTools3 + hTools4 offer The single user license for hTools3 costs 120€, hTools4 will probably cost a bit more. As a special offer to raise funds for the glorious coding marathon of October, users who license hTools3 until 31st September 2021 will get a free license for hTools4. Here’s what current users have said about hTools3: “A few tools alone make it worth the investment.” – Hugues Gentile, Production Type “hTools is an essential part of my workflow, especially as a designer who wants to work efficiently but isn’t a Python coder. hTools is great!” – Jeremy Mickel, MCKL Thanks for reading & thanks for your support, see you in October! Gustavo

hi @Juantte! RoboFont 4.0 was released this summer with several changes in the drawing API. Many extensions have not been updated yet, but the community is catching up! https://forum.robofont.com/topic/804/robofont-four/2 There is no specific problem with the M1 processor

Glyph Construction needs to use the new Subscriber api, where a delay can be set to prevent multiple calls in the same notification.